Thread:Undella/@comment-31850231-20180916000845/@comment-27002267-20180917075901

Thank you Frostvalor for providing your opinion on this topic. I see that the your main concern is that 'Oumae' is simply more commonly used than 'Ōmae', and that it is easier to type. I would agree with you, if circumstances were simpler, but there are many other factors on why many anime and manga wikis choose to use the latter.

Before I start explaining, let me address the official site. As seen in the link  Frostvalor provided, http://anime-eupho.us  is indeed copyrighted by Ponycanon.jp. However, it also shows the orignial Japanese site  on which it is based on. Yes it's an offical site, but as I mentioned previously, I would not consider it as a credible source for correct formatting. Look at the front page. It still announces that Season 2 will be airing in October, when it has already aired for almost a year, hence it is clearly outdated. Also, there are spelling errors clearly seen on the site which suggests that the general formatting cannot be trusted to be correct, and if a Japanese institution was the one who translated/adapted that page from the original one, even more so to reduce its reliability as they are not familiar to the accurate guidelines of English translations.

On to my next point. Almost every single developed anime/manga wiki uses a macron to represent long vowel sounds in character names, and there are many more characters out there in the anime universe in which their unformalised names are far more commonly used than their formalised names. Yuma Kuga/Yuuma Kuga has 378K results, while Yūma Kuga has a mere 16K. Kentarou has 700K while Kentarō has 90K. The list goes on and on. So why do these wikis choose to be 'inconvenient to users'? The answer is that the use of macrons (known as the traditional Hepburn system) are widely seen as a highly formal way to present long vowels as compared to aa, ii, uu, ee, and ou, and is assumed to be the standard convention in romanization systems. See this link here. Many see the use of 'ou' as vulgar or incorrect, and also because some would pronounce 'ou' as one would say 'oh' instead of prolonging the desired 'o' sound, which would create further confusion. This goes the same for aa, ii, uu and ee. And as this comment  states, "That something is often done does not make it a right thing." To put it simply, Japanese romanisation prefers preserving the sound than imitating the orthography of the language. Thus, I think I have made my point clear on why the Hibike! Euphonium wiki should also stick to the conventional use of macrons for romanization.

This in no way, however, limits the Ōmae (or Oumae, if you are still against it) family's exposure to the community. Redirects are still in place, meaning if people search up Kumiko Oumae, Kumiko's page and subpages will still come up in search engines like google. Try it for yourself right now. Kumiko Ōmae's wiki page is still the top result. Also, I understand that it is inconvenient having to go out of the way to type Ō whenever it is required, but on certain mobile devices, if you hover on the o, you can drag it to the desired variations, with Ō included.

I didn't realise how much I've been typing until now, and I'm just going to end it here. If the problem here is simply that having to input Ō on a frequent basis is too much of an invonvenience for this wiki's community, then I will revert the changes to its original format if you wish. To be honest, if so many of the other wikis in the anime/manga fandom can maintain this conventional standard without conflict, I can't see why we cannot.

Also, Undella, as this is already on your wall, could you please provide an opinion? It would be gladly appreciated.